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8/1/2021 1:57 PM
 

Impossible Turn...POSSIBLE.

On the way to one of many of our breakfast flights as a small formation, we lost (most of) the motor on departure out of HOME DROME, Carlisle, PA, N94.

My primary emergency landing area, the highway aligned with the runway (I-81), had a traffic jam that morning, so that was OUT.

My pre-planned landing zone for runway 28, which I have rehearsed many times, looked good -- so set up for a open field landing....checked iFly and had JUST enough altitude, wind at my back, airspeed and judgement (and a bit of luck) to try to make it back to the airport opposite direction....MADE IT without a scratch. Thank you Lord.

Made the impossible turn thanks to a quick scan of iFly information and a combination of favorable conditions.  Some days, you'd just rather be lucky than good!

Again, I thank God for getting me and my CFI (who was an excellent CRM co-pilot the minute it went bad) on the ground OK.

Turned out to be a bad jug...already rebuilt, installed and flown - GTG!

Mike N714AJ

 

Our flight path...we got up to about 900 AGL or so before we lost power. 

 
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8/29/2021 11:39 AM
 

Well done, Mike! (I've just seen your report--a month late.) Can you say more specifically what you looked at in iFly that helped you decide what to do that the airplane's instruments didn't tell you?

For example, the takeoff was at your home field, so I'd expect that your height AGL would be an easy mental calculation. But maybe it was more effective to have the AGL number displayed on the iFly so you wouldn't have to do any math in your head. (I currently have the AGL instrument displayed, but small and unobtrusive, and I don't remember where it is on the iFly screen. Maybe it should be more prominent.)

I've been in your situation a few times, myself, and I think what would have helped me most each time is a glide "ring" showing at a glance all the places I could get to without the engine but including the AGL altitude and the wind direction and velocity. It seems to me that that would be more helpful than all the fancy flight planners and synthetic vision doo-dads in the world. But maybe iFly already provides what's needed, and I just need to be more aware of it. Yes?

It's astonishing how much adrenalin it takes at a time like that to do all the mental calculation, keep calm, and fly the airplane.

 
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9/2/2021 8:53 PM
 

Don,

Thanks for asking - I am still in a bit of awe it happened, we responded correctly, and we placed the aircraft on the runway safely, by the Grace of God!

Elements of the iFly I employed during the IFE:

1. AGL altitude - did not use any mental bandwidth with math in public - saw it and decided.

2. Ground Speed - calculated the winds aloft and did a quick estimate of how far they could carry me back to the airport.

3. Distance to go to the aerodrome - rather than guess, it was right there.

The rest was pure muscle-memory and reliance on pre-planned landing areas I had thought about many times in advance. I knew EXACTLY where I was turning to land and that gave me a LOT of confidence and assuaged my sudden anxiety.  At that point, as strange as this sounds, I was actually thinking about landing without ruining the brand-new paint job! That is nuts but I am confessing what went through my mind. I had JUST painted the plane and installed new seats...and I did not want to turn it over to the insurance company!

I had a co-pilot with me, my CFI, who has 8,000 hours, so he immediately went into CRM-mode and started monitoring my airspeed and pitch...very helpful.  I got on the radios and cleared the runway of my wingman behind me. Aviate - Navigate - Communicate kicked back in from my USAF days flying.  

Visualizing this and preparing for it far in advance made it go smoothly, if you can say such a thing about losing an engine on take-off....

I thank God He was with me on this one...makes me think about what I would have done if this was NIGHT - probably the same thing.  

Thanks for asking. I hope it never happens to anyone reading this, but I can't over-emphasize the need to simply fly around your home-drome one day and select feasible places to land if you lose your engine on take-off. It is the worst possible time, IMHO.  However, you can and will survive this by having a plan, keeping cool, and doing what you were trained to do during every BFR since you earned your PPL.

Mike N714AJ

 

 
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