Tim Taylor wrote:
There is no mode C veil. You simply need ADS-B to fly in, over, or under mode C. Maybe that's what you are calling mode C veil.
If I had my own airplane, I would simply get ADS-B out and quit bitching. It's part of the price of owning your own airplane. Otherwise, sell your plane and rent. I've done both over the past 50+ years.
ADS-B OUT is mandated, not ADS-B in. ADS-B out will not show you other aircraft, but it will help you see them if you opt for ADS-B in. You can build that for about $150. Of course, you need both to see all of the traffic (most, still not all).
Tim, with all due respect, there is most certainly a Mode C veil.
I fly in and out of Washington, DC airspace routinely (inside the SFRA and FRZ) and through the Mode C veil. It does exist. It may not around where you are, but there are a major part of the complex airspace of the NE part of the USA.
I am not "bi#$^ing" as you put it - just trying to have a good conversation.
I do own my plane but have the greatest respect for renters as we all started out renting, most likely. Your advice to "go rent" does not change the airspace issues we are discussing, but ok, you have a right to suggest it.
Regards, Mike
Mode C veil refers to a kind of airspace which currently surrounds all primary
Class B airports within the
United States. This airspace extends horizontally to a circle of 30
NM radius centered on the airport, and extends vertically from the surface up to 10,000 feet
MSL.
[1] The name refers to the mode of
transponder operation which is required within this airspace (i.e., with very limited exceptions, all aircraft operating within this airspace must have an altitude reporting Mode C transponder in operation). All 37 existing (as of August 2016)
Class B airports in the United States,
[2] have Mode C veil centered on them.
[3] This was not the case for many years, whereas two Class B airports did not have it (at least
de jure):
Houston Hobby Airport[4] and
Miramar Naval Air Station.
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