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10/25/2017 1:50 PM
 
Hook wrote:

I think everyone understands the regs on this.

Maybe you were trying to be ironic or tongue-in-cheek, but I think you missed the poster's point: if both certified and non-certified aircraft are sharing the same airspace, why is it so important that the certified ones have TSO'd equipment, while the others don't?  How does it make it safer that just some of the aircraft have TSO'd equipment?  Or would make it unsafer if everyone used non-TSO'd?  If non-TSO'd equipment is unsafe, why are they allowing a goodly portion of the fleet to use it?

It doesn't bother me.  My aircraft are experimentals, and they're set with ADS-B in/out.  But this is one of the major reasons that I *don't* own a certified aircraft.

 

Great point, Hook.

Howerver, I was recently told that if you fly an experimental aircraft in IMC conditions under IFR, the equipment must be certified - is that true?

I do not know and am asking. I have a certified aircraft and am waiting for certified equipment to become available in my price range - hopefully by early 2018.

I have heard and read so many conflicting reports that I would like to see the FAR on this one.

Concur that it makes no sense to have a different standard for aircraft flying in the same IMC conditions under IFR.

Also, as word of caution to all (not Hook), there is no need for anyone to get nasty on this forum just because we may respectfully disagree at times. Courtesy and respect costs us nothing and gains us everything.  I've been slammed a couple of times here (not this thread) and refrained from returning fire...just not the place for it. (Have heard this on the radios as well - totally unprofessional)

 

 

 
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10/25/2017 5:23 PM
 
IFR flight requires TSO'd equipment, as it should. VFR is less critical because it's up to the pilots to see and avoid. ATC only guarantees separation of IFR from IFR, both with TSO's equipment.
 
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10/26/2017 6:48 AM
 
Tim Taylor wrote:
IFR flight requires TSO'd equipment, as it should. VFR is less critical because it's up to the pilots to see and avoid. ATC only guarantees separation of IFR from IFR, both with TSO's equipment.
 
Tim,
 
Yes, this is what I have heard.  And I think it is leading to confusion.
1. Is the proper term TSO'd or Certified for the more expensive (but no less capable) adsb?
2. How would the flight test with the FAA differ?
3. How would ATC controllers know if the adsb was certified or not in an experimental? Not suggesting people should do this, only trying to find the technical answer.
I do not expect anyone to do a deep dive in research, but these finer points come up all the time at my airport...

 

 
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10/26/2017 3:11 PM
 
I don't know the proper term for ADS-B except you need a TSO'd or Certified ADS-B out for your Cessna 150, whatever it's called.
 
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10/27/2017 10:27 AM
 

It is bothersome that Navworx would not answer questions emailed to them or reply to phone calls ever since the AD came out. I wanted to support them as a TX company as I'm sure did iFly but their service left a lot to be desired. It has been a disaster and I'm out nearly $3000 as a result

 
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